Today on Hindsight Hacking we have an incredible treat for you all. A wellness & mindset coach focusing on preventing burnout and overcoming stress through sustainable and realistic wellness habits, mindfulness and breathwork for overworked professionals. Marina Kirik is who we are talking about today and she did not disappoint. She was formerly an overworked, over stressed corporate employee - having to overcome anxiety and chronic stress while living in the insanely fast pace of New York City and working for the fastest growing startup at the time. Stress used to be part of her every day and affected her deeply - her body, mindset and relationships. Working in the corporate world can take a toll on all of us and Marina was no stranger to working on the weekend to prove her worth, rushing to happy hour at the end of the day to relieve some of the stress, and rolling over unused PTO again and again. Then it clicked and over the past 5 years she changed her lifestyle around to first heal through tools such as yoga, mindfulness, and healthy nutrition. The tools she works with are a result of her Integrative Nutrition Health Coaching certification, Yoga Teacher and Meditation trainings, Personal Trainer certification, and countless courses, books and resources on health and wellness which she weaves together to create a 360 degree view of health for my clients. Her primary focus is supporting individuals through her 3 month 1:1 coaching program valued at $2997. The first month is focused on healing the body through healthy nutrition, better rest, and supportive self care habits. Month two is focused on mental well-being and processing the years of stored stress we often carry with us. The third month is focused on emotional regulation, working through triggers, and experiencing more peace and less reactivity. She is also in the process of creating new low cost options: Online meditation course, and a 2 month stress reset online program. This is such a great conversation and I cannot wait for you to hear it! Connect with Marina: http://www.sumofallpositive.com http://www.instagram.com/sumofallpositive Connect with Cory and Ron: Head over to Https://profitswithpodcasts.com to find out more about how your can easily launch and monetize a podcast. Or maybe you would like to learn more by jumping on a call with the guys? Just book a time that works for you! https://calendly.com/hindsighthacking/connect?back=1&month=2020-11 And you can find Cory and Ron on a few social channels! https://follow.cool https://www.facebook.com/coryecarter Or you just want to check out their websites: Https://gethhm.com Https://impactorsmastermind.com
Today on Hindsight Hacking we have an incredible treat for you all. A wellness & mindset coach focusing on preventing burnout and overcoming stress through sustainable and realistic wellness habits, mindfulness and breathwork for overworked professionals. Marina Kirik is who we are talking about today and she did not disappoint.
She was formerly an overworked, over stressed corporate employee - having to overcome anxiety and chronic stress while living in the insanely fast pace of New York City and working for the fastest growing startup at the time.
Stress used to be part of her every day and affected her deeply - her body, mindset and relationships. Working in the corporate world can take a toll on all of us and Marina was no stranger to working on the weekend to prove her worth, rushing to happy hour at the end of the day to relieve some of the stress, and rolling over unused PTO again and again.
Then it clicked and over the past 5 years she changed her lifestyle around to first heal through tools such as yoga, mindfulness, and healthy nutrition.
The tools she works with are a result of her Integrative Nutrition Health Coaching certification, Yoga Teacher and Meditation trainings, Personal Trainer certification, and countless courses, books and resources on health and wellness which she weaves together to create a 360 degree view of health for my clients.
Her primary focus is supporting individuals through her 3 month 1:1 coaching program valued at $2997. The first month is focused on healing the body through healthy nutrition, better rest, and supportive self care habits. Month two is focused on mental well-being and processing the years of stored stress we often carry with us. The third month is focused on emotional regulation, working through triggers, and experiencing more peace and less reactivity.
She is also in the process of creating new low cost options: Online meditation course, and a 2 month stress reset online program.
This is such a great conversation and I cannot wait for you to hear it!
Connect with Marina:
http://www.sumofallpositive.com
http://www.instagram.com/sumofallpositive
Connect with Cory and Ron:
Head over to Https://profitswithpodcasts.com to find out more about how your can easily launch and monetize a podcast.
Or maybe you would like to learn more by jumping on a call with the guys? Just book a time that works for you!
https://calendly.com/hindsighthacking/connect?back=1&month=2020-11
And you can find Cory and Ron on a few social channels!
https://follow.cool
https://www.facebook.com/coryecarter
Or you just want to check out their websites:
Https://gethhm.com
Https://impactorsmastermind.com
[00:00:00] CORY: I'm Corey Carter
[00:00:05] RON: and I'm Ron Cool this podcast we've hacked hundreds of entrepreneurs, hindsight. With better foresight. Now, guys, if you want to know all about what we can do to help you focus on being you head over to get H m.com, keep pushing through those ups and downs that we all will have
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[00:00:53] all right, everybody. Welcome back to hindsight hacking. And today. We have a very special guest coming to [00:01:00] you from somewhere in Mexico, she's traveling all over the world. She heard the pandemic was there and in the U S and just ran for the Hills. But more importantly, Ms. Marina, Kirk Kerrick Kerrick, Kerrick loosen it up, but you know, today you guys are in for a treat because if you want to find a way to get your mind, right? If you want to find a way. To, to really work through all the things that so many of us, I really think we just hide from. Right. Really think we don't always, we, we stay on the surface and I'm guilty, I'm guilty. And so today we're going to work through some of these anxiety issues that, you know, you could, you could talk, sleep pattern, right? Like all the things that marina can talk about, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna read a little bit of your bio just to give a little more context, uh, to anybody listening. But marina is a stress buster joy finder and holistic wellness coach focusing on stress and [00:02:00] burnout prevention in high achievers and entrepreneurs are passion is helping people affected by chronic stress. Feel calm, confident, and resilient marina. Welcome to the show.
[00:02:11] MARINA: Thank you Cory
[00:02:12] RON: Oh my gosh. This is like right up my alley right now. This is kind of crazy. So I can't wait to get into it, but before we do. Why don't you take a second and tell everyone a little bit more about you and how you got started in this.
[00:02:25] MARINA: Yeah, definitely. Thanks Ron so hi everyone. I'm Marina Kirik. And as Cory mentioned I'm a holistic wellness coach, but as a result of the pandemic, I really shifted my focus to focusing on stress first and foremost. So I've been a holistic health coach since about 2017. I was a formerly. Current Chronic burnt-out corporate professional myself, which is who I work with today. So I was building my business part-time since 2017 while being a consultant first, then a pro program and project manager. I was working on the fastest growing startup at the time and living in New York. So no [00:03:00] stranger to the chronic stress and the busy lifestyle that so many. Of the major cities in the U S kind of promote and, you know, living for the weekend, coping and all the different ways that I now teach about and coach about as being unhealthy and just finding better ways to cope today. And yeah, as a result of the pandemic, you know, last April Because when I decided to focus on my business a hundred percent of my time after about three years of building it part-time and I was seeing what we're all seeing, right? The global stress level, the toll that the pandemic was having on mental health, which was already pretty much a crisis, especially in the us and big cities. And then before the pandemic was just amplified so much more. I used to work with a lot of professionals who do all the right things. So we eat healthy. We try to exercise, we know all the right things that we should be doing. And to a large extent, many people are doing those things. It's just that we are still fatigued and anxious. And [00:04:00] stressed and despite all of those things. And so I really pivoted to focusing on stress as the core of well-being because without that being in place, better stress management, I feel like, especially for corporate professionals, entrepreneurs, anyone who is at a high achiever, who's looking to build something great in the world. It's so important to be focusing on how all our amazing drive and motivation affects our mental and physical health. So I now focus on. And overcoming stress from both a physical, mental and emotional standpoint.
[00:04:31] CORY: Love it. And you know, I'm going to ask you some questions, but I'm going to throw this out there. Ron and I, we were talking about in 20, 22 running an event, and I just had this vision of like day one, obviously mindset happens, you know, mindsets a lot of things. And like the week, one of a course or day one of an event, right. You got to get in the right frame of mind, but the stress aspect. Like, I just had this vision of you go into the room of however many people and. Getting them in the right mindset, [00:05:00] along with like eliminating some of that stress just through things you do in a big room. I don't know if that's, if that's what you do in big rooms or not. I don't know. I just had this weird vision of you doing it for our event so
[00:05:09] MARINA: well, that's amazing. And funny enough, I am going back to in-person events next week. So as you mentioned, I am right now in Mexico. I've been here for the past year, kind of optimizing for my own wellbeing, but it seems like in person events are coming back. So I'm on the east coast next week for a customers offsite and doing desk yoga and wellness workshop. So I'm so excited for that to be back.
[00:05:32] CORY: So good. Sorry.Ron to talk over there, but I wanted to get, I wanted to ask one question just to kick this off. And it is what are top three things that you recommend for people that you don't know for people that you don't know? If I'm internalizing all my stress or if I'm good at. You just, you know, as, as you, anybody asks advice, like what's the number, top three things that you give to people right out of the gate before you really dig into that [00:06:00] individual.
[00:06:00] MARINA: Yeah. So the way I look at the tools that I use with others is they fall in the bucket of the mindset tools and the mindset hacks that we could be using when stress is rising and then also the physical tools. So how can we be supporting our body and actually signaling to our body that we're okay. And overcoming stress from being stored and pent up. So a few simple things, right. As stress is rising. And I always get this question, it's like, I have, you know, I'm triggered something just happened. I got an email, an unexpected bill, whatever it might be, what should I be doing? Um, right in that moment. So a couple of things from the mindset point of. So I always talk about the fact that stress is actually a really beneficial response that our body has. We always think of it as just a hundred percent, a negative thing that we should minimize as much as possible, but on the level of the body, stress is there to keep us safe. This is the same exact response that we've had for centuries. Right? And so even today we have that with us. It's there to protect us, to keep us safe. It's just that our body and our mind in that moment [00:07:00] doesn't know that that's actually not a life-threatening event. So it's up to us. To send that signal to ourselves, especially when you feel that stress spiral start rising. Right? We feel like the punch in our stomach, a heartbeat starts raising. We start to breathe shallowly, all of those things that cascade of emotions and feelings start to happen. The first thing to remind yourself, knowing that stress is there to keep us safe is that you are safe. So, especially with, um, those that I work with that are high chronic stress or on the level of anxiety. Which is really thinking about like catastrophizing and thinking of the worst case scenarios is just coming back to the present moment. And if you really literally have to look around yourself, take a look around your surroundings, look down at your body, just do any sort of a reminder to yourself that, Hey, I'm actually. So, this is just an email. This is, you know, a bill, this is a conversation whatever's happening in front of me, a news article that popped up on my phone. I myself, in this moment [00:08:00] am safe. So that's like the first thing to address with and between you and yourself and your body to just send that reminder. So then how do you send that beyond just a mindset shift and a mindset reminder on a physical level? The best thing that we have. First line of defense when stress is rising is our breath. And for most people we think of breathing as just a process that happens in the background of our life. It is a function of, you know, just, just a response that happens. It's interesting though, because it is one of few things that can also can happen both on a subconscious level and we can consciously control it. It's the same as blinking, right? These are two really unique things where if we don't think about it, It happens in the background of our life. And when we're under stress, if we're not conscious of how we're breathing more often than not, we start panting. We start taking shallow breaths. We're like gasping for air and we don't even consciously realize it. So the first thing on a physical level to do is to [00:09:00] bring breath out of the background of our life, into the foreground and to actually start being mindful of how it is we're breathing. When we deepen the breath. We send a physical signal. So not just a mindset signal, but a physical signal to the body that we're safe because when we're under stress, when we're actually being chased by a predator or being threatened, like our life is at stake, we can't breathe deeply. And so when we consciously breathe deeply, we are sending that signal to our body that, Hey, we're actually, okay, we're fine. And it's okay to start relaxing. Any of that. And when you do start to drop into deeper breaths, you drop into your rest and digest response, which is the parasympathetic response that we have. We have two right fight or flight, which turns on unconsciously and starts that spiral. And we have the parasympathetic response, which is the break to that happening. So when we drop into the parasympathetic. The other breath, we actually can come back to thinking more clearly being more at rest in the body. And then we [00:10:00] can respond to whatever needs our attention from a place of more clarity. So those are just like two favorite things. One from the bucket of mindset, one from the physical bucket that I always share with others,
[00:10:10] RON: Oh my gosh I love that that spoke to me so much. Like literally I was the person. Said he thrived on stress. I love stress. Stress was always good. Stress kept me alive. I've come to realize I hit it. So that, that is something that is new. But I will say I have never suffered from anxiety, probably my entire life until recently, until recently. And it's very interesting because I've had to be very mindful of the breath piece. Right. because I'll start realizing I'm holding my breath. Then the spiral I, then I spiral into like oblivious craziness. Right. And it's it. You said something that I'm the master of the worst case scenario thought. Right. There's nothing positive. That's going to happen [00:11:00] in my brain. It's going to be the worst case scenario. And Corey knows, Corey knows, I like that. Right. So for those types of people, how do you help them get snapped out of it?
[00:11:11] MARINA: Yeah. So I love the question and my business is actually called Sum of all positive. So I am here for that dose of positivity for everyone. It's really any of the mindset tools, mindfulness, meditation, reframing, you know, asking more empowered questions, all of these things, it's building a mental muscle, just like you would a physical muscle. We take our body to the gym, but we rarely do the same thing for our brain. And so as you're first starting out and you maybe are faced with a lot, right? For someone who's listening to this conversation who has a lot going on in business at home, maybe health wise, whatever it might be. And even aside from those things, the uncertainty of the world is so high. And so, you know, Ron, you said until recently you haven't really been faced with this. Well, the higher the uncertainty, the more difficult it is for [00:12:00] us to imagine any kind of outcome, let alone a good one. And so maybe in the past, they used to be a little bit easier. We can look to the events of the past or really be more present. But now that so many things are changing so quickly, uncertainty is so high. We have a real big need as human beings to minimize uncertainty. Again, that's a safety mechanism that we have. That's a function of our body and our mind want us to be safe. We want to have things be certain. So I think one of the best tools. To going back to what I said about this, being a muscle that you flex and work on over and over again is recognizing it as such and giving yourself grace when it feels difficult at first, but tools like mindfulness. I am a meditation teacher and coach. I finally recorded my first meditation course, which I'm so excited to offer to others you know, it's a tool that we've been talking about that has become more popular over the past. I would say like 10, 15 years, it's kind of like yoga became super popular. Now. It's just, [00:13:00] you know, kind of a way of life, you know, there's yoga clothes, there's just books. It gets easier. It gets easier.
[00:13:08] RON: I will tell you, like, I'm like how difficult? Right. So my wife and I, we were doing yoga and like, we suck at it. Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sugar coat it. Like. It is really D and my wife is like super athletic and I am not, and she's, she, it's difficult. It's a difficult practice, but you do better at it as you force yourself to continue to do it.
[00:13:32] MARINA: It's, you know, it's interesting. Totally hear you on saying that you're bad at it right now. And there's of course, a point to being realistic about where you're at currently, but it's the same with like imagining better outcomes. Right? I bet. When you first started podcasts, It was awful. Right. You're the first podcast you ever recorded all have those things, right? Like being meditation and yoga teacher for the past seven years. Yeah. When I have a beginner in class, I [00:14:00] know that they're struggling. That's why we always ask. Right. Who's new to anything, right. I'm sure you would have asked me, is this the first podcast you've ever recorded? We always give beginners grace and we give them space and we're kind to them. We just rarely do that to ourselves. Like when we're the beginner in that class, we're like, oh my God, I'm so terrible. I don't know where I'm stepping. I'm not strong enough. My muscles are weak. I'm not flexible enough. This will never get better. If it's the same thing with. And, you know, when we first dropped into a meditation, the very first meditation you ever do, you're just thinking the whole time. And you're probably thinking about how bad you are at it. And that's the reality for everyone. And we don't practice those things. Right. Mindfulness and meditation is pretty useless. if All we did it for, it was just to sit quietly for like 10 to 20 minutes at a time. The goal of doing those things is for the benefits that they provide to us in a real life. And those benefits come up during those times when you're anxious, when you're struggling to find that better case outcome and scenario, when you feel that surge of [00:15:00] stress hormones happening, and you want a tool to stop yourself from going further down that spiral. And I really love mindfulness as a tool because it really provides. It creates space from you. And then the person who's thinking that the anxious thoughts you are the person thinking then, right. You're not the thoughts themselves. And in that space is where mindfulness happens. It's where you can see yourself thinking the thoughts and then choose differently. So really mindfulness is the space to choose again. When you're thinking of yourself of 2021, you know, was bad, 20, 22 is going to be even worse. I can't think of anything better that's to come pausing yourself, noticing that thought. And then, Hey, is that really? So I can't predict the future. So could there be a better possible outcome? It's that mental muscle, just like going to the gym.
[00:15:51] RON: Love it.
[00:15:52] CORY: All right. I have a two-part question is, do you know, and did you follow or like Tony Robbins being in that, in your space? I don't know. [00:16:00] You probably know him. I'm not sure if you like them or not.
[00:16:02] MARINA: I do. I actually have been to every single Tony event.
[00:16:05] Perfect.
[00:16:06] CORY: Okay. So this past week he was at and did a few hours at, uh, or they even, I was at funnel hacking live and I mean, he's gone like four years now. So it's two years in a row. I've seen him there, but he made this comment and I bring this up because you recently had a little blog post or something about imposter syndrome and Brian and I, we, as we teach people to launch podcasts, we talk imposter syndrome. Like w you know, the question is why would people want to listen to me? Whatever, whatever. Right. And so the imposter syndrome comes up and it's something Tony said about it. And he was like, you know, obviously he's a little more crass in regards to his language, but he was like, it's BS and it is just fear. It is literally just it's fear of. It's going to that next level. It was a long conversation on that, but, you know, without going into [00:17:00] detail of what you wrote on your article, I'd love to just kind of hear your take on, on imposter syndrome and on like, how does somebody just, you know, get over it as quick as possible. Cause I know we all feel it as we level up in anything we do, but, but yeah. Give me your take on, on imposter syndrome if you would.
[00:17:17] MARINA: Yeah, of course. I actually have a workshop on imposter syndrome and it's something I talk about with my clients often. And the first time that I put together and gave my imposter syndrome talk, I had imposter syndrome about the workshops. So yeah, it's very real right. As I'm going through my slides of having read a number of books and studied the mindset tools around my imposter syndrome, at length I'm like, who am I to talk about imposter syndrome? Like I feel it right now, but first of all, you know, I think it's about being realistic that it happens for all, perhaps not someone like Tony Robbins at this point. There's only a handful of people at his level in this world. And I think everyone else below that level still struggles with it. Right? So still someone with a [00:18:00] million followers is probably like, who am I to speak to an audience of X amount of. So it's just, it's being realistic with that. I think one of the core takeaways of the workshop that I give is just normalizing the fact that it's normal for all of us. It's normal for our manager, it's normal for the owner of the company. We work for it's normal for the president. Like everyone struggles with it at some point in their journey. And something I love, I haven't heard Tony speak on this exact topic before, but I it's no surprise that he worked down to the level of underlying. It is fear is because in the personal development community, we like to talk about, there are secondary emotions and then there's primary emotions. And then there's kind of emotions that build, you know, all along the way on that. So something like frustration, that's definitely a secondary emotion, right? That's not the core of what's going on there. Bigger underlying that feeling. That's really serving us that trigger for frustration downstream. And we like to think that there's only, you know, working all the way down to the core emotions. There's only two there's fear and [00:19:00] there's love. And when we're in fear, we're moving farther away from love. And it's hard to feel both at the same time. So one is kind of an antidote to the other, whether, you know, that's kind of a controversial view I found among the coaching community. So if that resonates with you, you know, just take. If not, it's just interesting to think about, but the level of fear, right. Fear is what underlines imposter syndrome. I definitely resonate with that because remember what I said that stress on a physical level is just the body wanting us to be safe. And for so many of us safety is our primary goal, right before everything else before self actualization, before. You know, a book published before having a family and starting a relationship safety for so many of us is at the core of it all. And then it's up to us through the work that we do through taking action day in and day out from the time that we're born throughout our adulthood, we chip away and we create things in our life, despite the fear and the mechanism for it, and the need [00:20:00] for safety that underlies all of that and so you know, working down to that level of like, Hey, beneath my imposter syndrome, it's really the imposter syndrome is there as that secondary emotion underneath it though. What am I actually worried about? Let's say you have imposter syndrome about publishing a book. Well, maybe below that you actually have a need to be safe, meaning that you don't want to go on a book tour. You don't want to be seen as an authority. You're self-conscious about being on video. All of these you know, safety things underneath it all. You don't want to be judged when we work down to those underlying core things that actually underlie stress, fear, worry things like imposter syndrome that are definitely secondary. Yeah. I think it's really real that we're just afraid to take out. And so once we know that though, that's where those helpful reminders come back, right? It's like, Hey, if I take this action, what is actually going to happen? How will my life change? And [00:21:00] let's say that, just taking that example, because I am starting on writing a book, which I am genuinely looking forward to, but let's say someone wants to write a book but they won't let themselves, well, maybe they actually really don't want that because all the things that come with that will change their life in the direction that they don't want to see that change happen. So it's really always really helpful to just kind of unravel that emotion that you're feeling and just recognize that many of the things that we feel day to day are secondary emotions. There's something much larger, a much more core to who we are underneath that.
[00:21:38] RON: I Love that you brought up the love and fear piece, because I agree with that a hundred percent, you can't, you can't have fear and love at the same time. Cause they're competing emotions and you end up losing your mind if you're trying to feed both of them. Right. And so I love that. I love that. I love that
[00:21:57] CORY: to add on that real quick Ron in this past. [00:22:00] Uh, they took out love. And I think on purpose, whether the thought was already an understanding was already there between fear and love, but they talked a lot about fear and faith. And, and they, they brought it up in that and that sense, and it all boiled down to fear or faith. You, there have faith that you can go and execute or, and move forward or, and you won't die. Right? Like as the underlying fear. Right. And so you didn't, there's no certainty when you have faith. It's all uncertain. And, but the fear at that wants that uncertain, that wants the certainty, you know, struggles back. And so they talked a lot about that. So it's kind of funny that we went to that subject there. So
[00:22:41] RON: faith is extremely healing, right? So if you have faith and you can like live in the faith there, it heals. Everything like it, it can overcome the fear. It can overcome all of these other pieces, as long as you have the faith and your faith is strong enough to make those things happen. [00:23:00]
[00:23:00] MARINA: Yes. Yeah. So good.
[00:23:02] RON: So, so I think that's, that's awesome. I loved the being mindful part, but I also loved give yourself grace, if you're new and I'm probably gonna use that one later in our takeaways, but how do you help people? Like get there. Cause I know, I mean, that's something Cory and I, we, we struggle with and as, as coaches or managers, it's really easy for us to just say, just, just, just do it, just do it, like stop, stop thinking in yourself, just do it right. And that's kind of where we end up. We just, just do it and move forward. Done is better than perfect is what we say. But how do you get someone to truly give themselves grace in that area.
[00:23:41] MARINA: Yeah, such a good question. And definitely something that, you know, even with myself, as someone who's building a business, it's something that I have to come back to every single day, every single time you level up in anything, right. It's another one of those thresholds of it's scary. I don't know what I'm doing and the imposter [00:24:00] syndrome comes up and you have to be reminding yourself again and again, that you're safe that this was a muscle that you're flexing and to start and continue to refocus on what could go. Right. It's interesting that I think, you know, for entrepreneurs, especially, I think there's no point when you can really say that you're done. Maybe some, some, some of us who are in a corporate profession, we reach a certain level and we're just kind of like happy there. And maybe that's the case for some entrepreneurs as well. But by, by and large, what I see with people who are building something in the world is that every single time they reach a new place, right. It's like, okay, it's time to set new goals, a new vision. You look back and you realize that your goals have been met. And it's funny in hindsight, I know that. To me often, it's like looking forward at a goal. It feels really scary and it feels like a stretch, but then when you reach it [00:25:00] and you're looking back from that place of reaching that mountaintop, you're like, oh, this isn't that big of a deal. And it's like, when you realize that like, oh, this isn't that big of a deal is when we kind of start to diminish all the work that went in and now it's like, oh my gosh, I have to start all over again. Have to aim higher but recognizing that that again is a path that everyone takes. And I know this is like such a cliche thing, but falling in love with the journey, right. When you're building, when you're actually in it, like you're ascending the mountain top, and something is within reach, but you have to keep working for. I find that those who set out on big goals, big vision, the archetype of the person is someone who loves the challenge. And so once the challenge is met, it's like, oh, okay. Time for the next thing. So it's really like for me too. Let's just take the example of me making this meditation course a year ago, I had imposter syndrome around someone wanting to listen to me, talk [00:26:00] for 30 minutes at a time in their ear, helping them relax. Right. Something like that. But now that it's all recorded and done, I'm like, oh my gosh, that was so easy. What do you mean like now this product is out in the world. Figured out all the steps around it and it's ready to go for me. When I was doing that, when I was actually recording the meditations, when I was writing my scripts, I take a conscious moment to like remind myself when I'm in the building process. Like this is the fun part. And right now I'm super fortunate to be here in Mexico city, connecting with other entrepreneurs, I'm at a coworking space. So again, super nice to be in person in that creative energy. So it's in the late. On Saturday night, we ordered takeout and we're all course creating here and we're sharing experiences and, you know, it's so fun to be in that creative process of like swapping things out and iterating and what would be even better for those that end up listening to this, like thinking of that final outcome, but also loving where you are. [00:27:00] And this quote has been popping up over and over again for so many days. Now it's really funny, like social media, these things get picked up it's that you are currently living at least one of your former prayers and just being reminded of that. Right? Like as you're going through it, like at every step yes, you're going to aim higher, but like love where you currently are. And just be honest with the fact that imposter syndrome comes up at every single level. You get an opportunity to flex that mental muscle at every single level. That's how strong the stronger. Is through that journey. And that's why you have people like, you know, Tony Robbins who are completely unafraid to speak to a stadium of 50,000 people, like, imagine that to him, that's no big deal. And so we get to keep working and growing and building that resiliency through our own mindset barriers through our own imposter syndrome. And it's like, looking back, how fun is it to [00:28:00] see how far you've come at? Every one of those points in the journey.
[00:28:04] RON: love it
[00:28:04] CORY: Yeah, so good. So good. It's so funny. And just from the entrepreneur side, it Ron and I being around the funnel community click funnel community, the big goal is a million bucks, right? Like receive an award when you hit a million bucks, but. That is just part of this journey. Like a million bucks will be great for, you know, the business for a year or two or whatever, but that's not the end goal, right? Like the end goal is so much beyond that, even on the monetary side, but the fulfillment that hopefully it can come with anyone's own buisness through achieving that. And through that journey is just so important that people sometimes I think lose sight of. So this is so, so good. The timely conversation that we're having today is pretty fun. All right. So I know you mentioned hindsight, Hindsight Hacking, our goal is to get, you know, our guests take on their hindsight to give our listeners better foresight. And so I'm going to direct [00:29:00] my question to. When you made the switch, right? When you were stressed out, burnt out, building a business on the side and things were crazy. And then you finally, one day decided, okay, I'm all building this business and I'm going to help people with stress because that's where my passion is. Like walk us through when you felt that moment. And then just thinking about like in hindsight, Could you have made that decision sooner? Could you have made the leap sooner? Uh, because Ron and I have our own story of like, we had built building the side business, both working full-time jobs, and then all of a sudden it's like, all right, it's time. It's like, we're being, we're burnt out working two things right now and trying to do the family life. And, and then once we made the decision, we haven't looked back. Right. So I'd love to hear your take on that.
[00:29:49] MARINA: Yeah, I love that question because I realized that corporate wasn't serving me back in 2015, I would say, and I had this like, oh my God moment. Like, I [00:30:00] worked so hard. I got a master's degree. I hustled forever. Now I have a great job where I'm well-respected well-paid like, I want to be clear with everyone listening. Right? Like it doesn't always like, just because I was burned out. I still loved where I was. It's just that I wanted something different. And so, yeah, that happened in 2015, but I actually didn't end up quitting my corporate job until 2020. So that's a long stretch of time. And I heard, I started diving in, on podcasts and books, right. Kudos to podcasts because that was like my entry point into personal development and really into entrepreneurship. Because before that, I, you know, after that I started reading the four hour work week and it was like the Typical checklist if someone who is looking to quit their job, but it really started with podcasts and Lewis. Howes is someone whose community I've been listening to and following forever. And really he was coaching someone either on a live call or on a Q and a, and someone was like, well, Louis, should I just do it? You know, I'm younger than I will ever be like, is this the [00:31:00] right time? And he's like, You know, don't make decisions out of fear. Don't make decisions out of anxiety and stress be more calculated. And that really stuck with me because when you first realized that for yourself, you're like, oh my gosh, I'm in a place that isn't serving me. What should I do? Should I leave right now? Right. Like a lot of like social media and things like that will have us believe that there's no time. Like the present right now is the time to go, but I am actually in, you know, a different Point of view of just like, no, be calculated about it. Don't make decisions from fear and build something that will actually last, because I also see a lot of people who do quit and then they're in panic mode and then they're trying to figure out, you know, how to get any sort of income and especially those who have a family to provide for right. There's so many more decision points in play there. And so from. That was really Sage advice at that moment, because I, you know, was in a pretty bad place [00:32:00] of like the physical toll that stress was having on my body and the anxiety, the fatigue, but hearing that I was like, you know, there might be a better way to do this. A more calculated way, again, a more long lasting. Again, it's not for everyone to just quit cold Turkey. I think for me, why I realized 20, 20, April, 2020, it was the right time to go as for a couple of reasons. First of all, throughout those five years, I worked on all my certifications. So my yoga, meditation and health coaching certifications were all with me as well as personal development events. I went to his house events, Tony Robins, and so many other seminars where I connected with other people because in 2015, I didn't really know what the path forward would be. So I had to piece it together and I had to surround myself with the community of other entrepreneurs. See how people are building online businesses. What's podcasting about how does a person just have their own website. I knew none of that. And so it was like a really gradual step-by-step chipping away process. That was so valuable. And I was also saving money. I always say. One [00:33:00] of the key things to have in place is making sure you can provide for yourself to not make decisions out of fear. And by the time 2020 came around the way I knew that it was the right time is all of those things were first in place. So I felt safety. My need for immediate safety was fulfilled taking care of the fear. And the second thing is it was truly a moment where I knew I couldn't show up to work the next day. I was so excited about other things. And I quit, I believe on April 3rd, it was a Friday. And I truly like if you asked me to and paid me a bunch of money to come in on Monday, I couldn't, at that time, I was just completely focused elsewhere and I knew it would be a disservice to those that were working with me. So always thinking about that as well. And so I really think our journey is our own and comparing ourselves and learning from others is useful to a point. But yeah, it's so important to honor where you are. And with that, knowing of my own process, I know give others a lot of grace as well. So if someone is, I know that I can support [00:34:00] someone in coaching, right. And I'm so excited for them. And I know I could see it in their eyes, but they decide to not go through with it. At that time. I remember back like, Hey, they're giving themselves grace. I need to honor that. And there's the right moment for all of us to take a leap. I really think that there's no wrong turns. Cause it's all your own journey. So. Yeah. That's, that's kinda how I made the decision.
[00:34:23] RON: I love all of that. I love that. All of that. And I know there's people listening. They're like, how do I get involved? How do I get connected? How do I hook up with her? Like how do people get involved with you and kind of what are you working on now?
[00:34:34] MARINA: Yeah, so I I'm currently still focusing on one-on-one coaching. I am always going to make time available for that. Cause that just lights me up so much. So to find out more about that, my website is Sum of all. Positive.com that's S U M of all positive.com. That dose of positivity, you can always count on me for that. My Instagram channel is also where I post a lot of guided meditations that are free, and it's just Sum of all positive and on Instagram. And I [00:35:00] also have now the corporate wellness side. So yes, this is me speaking and reaching more people, hopefully more and more. I love talking to an audience and really seeing that progression of like, Hey, Stress doesn't have to be your reality forever. There's nothing that I love more than walking someone through that process. So I talk to teams virtually and in person, I do desk yoga, mindfulness webinars, different health topics. So I'm so excited to have that be part of what I do now as well. And then, like I said, my meditation course, I will be sharing about that more on my social media this month as it's finally available. So yeah,
[00:35:36] CORY: love it. So to anybody out there. The link to some of all positive will be in the show notes, feel free to hit the link and head on over. But one final question from me today and let's, I wanted to focus on the food. And what is in your opinion, like all the fad diets, all that craziness that's out. What's like the [00:36:00] takeaway sleep in water. What's the one, like feed food thing that it's, you're just like, you need to go. Do that I don't care what it is. It's not part of a diet, it's part of every diet on the food aspect. Is it juicing? Is it just plates full of veggies? Is it, what is the, what is your recommendation on the food side?
[00:36:17] MARINA: Well, of course veggies are always going to be really nourishing. What I like to talk about with my clients, from like the health coaching point of view is eating for your heritage. And this is, I think still really, really talked about. And I really think this is the key to why some people can thrive on a vegan diet. Some people can thrive on a carnival, right? Some people can eat pizza and pasta and never gained weight. It really like there's so much frustration in nutrition, right? This is like one of the most controversial things, right? Politics, religion, nutrition. Don't tell someone how to eat. Don't take away.
[00:36:51] Someone's like home cooked lasagna. No way. Look, this is, I think the missing piece is that when we're not eating the way that. [00:37:00] Our evolution, like our personal evolution has evolved thinking back to, you know, where do we come from? What's our ancestry. It's so fascinating to actually learn and dig into what your genealogy is. That's why, you know, my friends who are Vietnamese can't have milk because their ancestors grew up without milk. And now of course, that population is lactose intolerant versus my ex-boyfriend who is Scandinavian. They can have milk all they want. That is literally one of the main food groups that Scandinavian countries have grown up with. So, you know, beyond like all the different fad diets, I think it comes back to just listening to the body and noticing how different foods make you feel. And I promise you, there's usually a link between that and how your parents, your grandparents, and so on used to eat. So I think that's just like rarely talked about.
[00:37:52] CORY: I think that is my Absolute favorite nutrition answer I've ever heard, like sleep water. [00:38:00] And your heritage, like, come on people. That's cool.
[00:38:03] MARINA: There's no one size fits all. That's why we all can't get along and we keep butting heads in nutrition, but it's like, Hey, where do we come from?
[00:38:11] CORY: Oh love it.
[00:38:12] RON: Oh my gosh. Oh my God. Well, we are so thankful that you came on the show today. We'd love to have you back another time if you have time, but we are thankful anybody that wants to connect, make sure they do and shoot that website one more time.
[00:38:25] MARINA: Sum of all positive.com. Thank you. Thanks Ron. Thanks Corey. This was so fun.
[00:38:31] CORY: Thank you. We'll talk soon. Bye. All right, everybody. That is another interview in the books and I don't know about you, Ron, but Marina was pretty awesome. Like that was probably been one of the most inspiring like mindset coaches we've had around. because she's not looking at it as she's the end all be all. She's just looking at it as how to help the person and what is different for that individual versus someone [00:39:00] else. And I loved every aspect of that conversation. So I know we'll definitely learn more from her in the future, but before we get to the future, let's talk about a few takeaways,
[00:39:09] RON: I have two that come to mind right away. And I agree with you. Great. I think she was one of the better mindset coaches that we've had on the show because of how she approaches. Right. And so one. Awesome. Awesome. But here's my two and this, these are probably why she's good. Right? Cause she gives herself grace. Asks you to give yourself grace. Right. And I know, I know how important that is. So you have to give yourself grace in order to be healed, to get through, to fill in the blank. Right? So that's one, the second one that she said, and it was in passing, but it's super powerful was work to build something that will last like build. I mean, it was, it was interesting. Rachel and I were doing a Bible study today and it says you people long to. Have a legacy and you want to be seen or [00:40:00] remembered for more than the dash on your tune stuff. Right. So you've got your birthday and your end date and then the dash symbolizes your life. Right. And so you, you want to build something that will last?
[00:40:14] CORY: Yeah. Yeah. So many good takeaways in there, but the one. And as she is, is it in regards to the whole conversation around breath work? And it's never been anything like you and I have really ever done. George Bryant is one of the few entrepreneurs. I know that. Heavy into it, but, but the way, like it kind of went back to, it can bring down the stress, it can bring you back to the present moment. It can save you when you're actually need to be stressed because of fight or flight type thing. But then the piece that hit me on that was, if you remember, you know, like a Jeff Wickersham, white, he meditates every day, right?
[00:40:54] Like, and then I was doing it really good in 2021 for a long time. And I fell off the wagon and. [00:41:00] But part of me was doing this meditation and it was like, just trying to be quiet for 10 minutes. It was trying to get into that, that mindset, but it wasn't, I didn't have it as like, this is going to help me throughout my day.
[00:41:11] This is going to help me beyond this 10 minute. And I feel like that's partially why I fell off the wagon because I wasn't looking at it in the longterm and I wasn't doing the breath work to get it to be relevant throughout the entire day. And I was just checking the box, like, yep. I did it. I did my workout. I did my 10 minutes of meditation. Like, you know what I mean? And so it just made me feel in all the ways that I failed in that aspect and why I fell off that wagon and how breath work and having how having it as a mindset of. In the long run, not just for these 10 minutes. And so I loved every second of that.
[00:41:49] RON: Yeah, no, I thought it was great. And the checklist is hard cause we live off of checklists. So, and look, I've done it. I mean, you and [00:42:00] I have had plenty of conversations on plenty of examples of a checklist, right.
[00:42:04] CORY: We're checking off our water. Oh, check Got my glass of water in
[00:42:07] RON: check. Right. So we have to be intentional, you know? So if, if you are trying to do X, Y, Z, As long as you do it intentionally you'll be successful.
[00:42:17] CORY: Yep. All right. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for listening and thank you for so much for watching. I assume you're going to watch this at some point. Otherwise, what are you doing? Come on, head on over to our Facebook group, check it out, head to our YouTube channel, check it out, or, you know, listen to it on your favorite podcast, listening platform.
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