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Salisha Thomas made her Broadway debut in Beautiful the Carole King Musical. She is a former Miss California, former vocalist for Disney, and a Blogger. Salisha was in rehearsals for the new Britney Spears Musical: Once Upon a One More Time when Broadway shut down due to COVID-19. She now hosts the new podcast: Black Hair in the Big Leagues, available wherever podcasts are streamed.
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[00:00:00] CORY: [00:00:00] All right, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of hindsight hacking and today's special guests, the one, the only miss Salisha Thomas now Salisha she made her Broadway debut in the beautiful Carol King musical. She is a former miss California, former vocalists for Disney and a blogger, which we got to get into a little bit as well.
[00:00:24] And now. We're past the pandemic, we're past everything. So Solutia, you've got to be heading back to Broadway soon. And you know, you've got to invite Ron and I, because we definitely need to go and check it out. Now, Salisha is the host of the podcast, black hair in the big leagues, and she's starting a new podcast, a second show that we get to talk to her about soon.
[00:00:48] So Salisha welcome to the show.
[00:00:52]SALISHA: [00:00:52] Oh, thank you for having me. I'm literally so pumped to sit down and talk with you guys. This is awesome.
[00:00:57] RON: [00:00:57] We are so excited to have you. We've been [00:01:00] wanting to get you on the show for awhile, but. Before we get too far into it. Why don't you take a little bit and let everyone know who is Salisha
[00:01:10] SALISHA: [00:01:10] oh my gosh.
[00:01:11] Who is Salisha? You know, you covered like a lot of things on my, in my bio Corey, but literally this journey I've, I'm on like a spiritual journey right now. I know this is, so I have been at so many. Points in my life where I have a fork in the road. So before I moved to New York city, I was, I had a whole life set up in California.
[00:01:33] I was working at Disneyland as princess Tiana. It's like my dream job in college. I'm like, oh my goodness. I just want to be a princess and a vocalist. And it would, really my heart was being called to New York for so long. And I'm here now spoilers, and I love it here, but before I moved here, I was like, I can't just pick up my life and move.
[00:01:52] And while I was here, I'm always looking for signs. I'm like, God, if you're trying to talk to me, I'm listening and he will send [00:02:00] some interesting people or ways to communicate with me. And when I got here a homeless man, he sat down next to me when we were waiting for the train. And he was like, I don't know who you are, but you need to move here and you need to do it now.
[00:02:12] RON: [00:02:12] Chills, right there, chills.
[00:02:15] SALISHA: [00:02:15] And I felt chills too. I had goosebumps all over my body. The train comes in. I'm like, oh my gosh, what's happening? I know he doesn't get on the train. The doors are shutting and he literally mouths the words. Good luck I'm like, what is happening?! That day. I put my notice in for Disneyland within two weeks, I moved, I'd gotten all my things. I sold all my things in California. Come back to New York city and heard about and was cast in beautiful, the Carol King musical on tour. And so I went on tour for two years. I took a week off and became miss California.
[00:02:50] I ran a marathon on a two show day. I Sang the national Anthem at a Giant's Dodgers game. And I had such a [00:03:00] great time. And so I transferred to the Broadway show, close. That show is like literally my favorite show ever, and then was in rehearsals for the Brittany Spears musical before this pandemic. And so, and now here we are, I mean, a lot has happened in the pandemic, but like, but here we are.
[00:03:14]CORY: [00:03:14] Ah, so fun. So fun. So first of all, my daughter probably would want to meet the very own Disney princess. So you could not do anything else. And you would be the hero for her.
[00:03:25]SALISHA: [00:03:25] My gosh!
[00:03:26] CORY: [00:03:26] She is the one that wears the crown around the house, as well as sings and dances to anything she can.
[00:03:32]SALISHA: [00:03:32] That's so sweet.
[00:03:33] CORY: [00:03:33] And so, yeah, that would be
[00:03:36] SALISHA: [00:03:36] What's her name? I just saw
[00:03:37] CORY: [00:03:37] Her name is Daylou
[00:03:40] SALISHA: [00:03:40] Daylou that's awesome.
[00:03:41]CORY: [00:03:41] You know, we found that and it's actually an African origin, but it means the only girl and yeah, it's just, you know, she's the only girl amongst a bunch of boy sibling and. Cousins and stuff and yeah, just it stuck. So, but yeah, she would love that to me, that part of your life, she would [00:04:00] love the Brittany and the the musical stuff and all that.
[00:04:03] But I know with the singing of the national Anthem, with the being the princess, with the Broadway stuff, like where's been kind of that favorite thing. Where's been that like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm here. I can't believe I'm doing this because it all sounds so good.
[00:04:19] SALISHA: [00:04:19] Yeah. I think like there's a lot of things that I've always wanted to do and what I'm finding out with life is, well, just try, like, and don't be afraid of failure. So when I, before I sang at the giants Dodgers game, I literally just like recorded my voice and my phone singing the national Anthem and sent it off to a bunch of different sports teams. And guess what most of them said no, except my favorite freaking team, the giants were like, yeah, we'd love to have you sing also.
[00:04:50] Opening weekend at and T park versus the Dodgers I hate the Dodgers I'm like, let's go. Like, literally just trying. When I became his California, I was [00:05:00] like, I just love pageants. I've run in pageants since high school. I always lose. I'm always miss congeniality, but one day I just take off a week on tour and I came back, miss California.
[00:05:11] You just never freaking know what if you just try. And so one of my favorite things is during this pandemic starting black hair in the big leagues, I had no idea how much I love having a podcast. Like you guys seem like you have so much fun and I get it. Like I've always thought Broadway is the goal.
[00:05:30] And I love Broadway. Do not get me wrong, but I'm always like, what's my next line? How do I know how to move my body, like I am so in my head! But when I am interviewing somebody or on my show, like, this is my show, this is my rules. Like, I'm sure you guys feel that. And there's a lot of freedom that comes with that and a lot of connection too.
[00:05:53] So that's my top. I think.
[00:05:55] RON: [00:05:55] No I love it. I love it. And podcasting, that is so true. Like we, [00:06:00] we use our show for many different things. We use it to. Too. We use it selfishly, because we get people on the show we learned from, or like, what can we learn from them? Come on our show, let's get some coaching.
[00:06:11] Let's talk.
[00:06:15] So that's all I want to go back to the God moment you had there, because that is amazing. And I think, you know, and we've talked about this. Topic many times on the show, but how God speaks is crazy. Right. But so many people. Miss it or aren't listening or don't understand it, and
[00:06:39] SALISHA: [00:06:39] Or are afraid.
[00:06:41] RON: [00:06:41] Yeah.
[00:06:41] SALISHA: [00:06:41] They know what they're supposed to do, but it's usually not the logical thing to do.
[00:06:46] RON: [00:06:46] Oh yeah. Literally I, when I was deciding to leave my job because of this silly little podcast, which we're doing great, but I was talking to my wife who likes to eat and live in the house, [00:07:00] you know? And I was like, hey, I'm thinking about leaving the best paying job I've ever had in my life,
[00:07:06] SALISHA: [00:07:06] right.
[00:07:06] RON: [00:07:06] To just work from home.
[00:07:08] And she's like, no, she was super supportive. She's like, Hey, let's just pray about it. And let's figure it out. It's something I know has been, you know, really making it known for years that you just you've went from this job to this other job. You're just not happy. And you've been called to do this. And I've said this one story about.
[00:07:29] My wife's aunt wanted once she feels her God given, calling is to have a llama farm to help battered women like get better and back on their feet. And I was like, oh my God, that's awesome. What are you doing to make that happen? Right. And she goes, oh, I'm just waiting. I go, God is never going to open up the sky and drop a llama farm on you.
[00:07:52]It's just never going to happen. So I've said that for years, for 11 years of my life with my wife and you know, so as [00:08:00] we're talking about this, we're going to church. And like every sermon was like, It's God talking. And I was like, gosh, funny, like that sounds like me. And the weekend before I put in my notice, it was a sermon about God given talents.
[00:08:15] And if you don't take the moment, it'll pass you. And I looked at her and my wife goes,
[00:08:24] SALISHA: [00:08:24] Go babe.
[00:08:25]RON: [00:08:25] Yeah, it's time.
[00:08:26] SALISHA: [00:08:26] It's time.
[00:08:27] Yeah, right!
[00:08:28] What a blessing to have a supportive partner like that too.
[00:08:31] RON: [00:08:31] That was the thing. And Corey and I, when we made this decision, that was the first part of our conversation where like, Hey, if we don't have support at home
[00:08:40] SALISHA: [00:08:40] yeah.
[00:08:41] RON: [00:08:41] It's going to fail.
[00:08:42] SALISHA: [00:08:42] Right. So I heard somebody say like, one of the biggest business decisions of your life is who you decide to spend your life with.
[00:08:50] RON: [00:08:50] Yeah.
[00:08:51] SALISHA: [00:08:51] Because if you're with somebody who does not support what you do, it's going to stunt, it just is going to change the trajectory of your life and vice [00:09:00] versa as well,
[00:09:00] RON: [00:09:00] Hundred percent true.. Okay. So going back to that moment.
[00:09:03] SALISHA: [00:09:03] Yeah.
[00:09:04] RON: [00:09:04] And you took action one, Bravo.
[00:09:07] SALISHA: [00:09:07] Thank you.
[00:09:08] RON: [00:09:08] Bravo. And I. Like I visually saw the moment happening when you were telling me it. I was like, oh my God, this is crazy. Have you told that story to like your family or especially like you're a Disney princess at the time.
[00:09:22] Like that's probably every girl's dream job and you're like, Hey, deuces, homeless guy told me to move. So I'm moving. Right? Like if you just said that out loud, people are probably like, wow, I think she's lost her mind.
[00:09:39]SALISHA: [00:09:39] And yeah, it's like, it's one of those things that like, you can't tell the whole world until after it's done, because people will try to discourage you from doing it.
[00:09:49] Like when you ask, I was asking for everybody's advice, like, should I move to New York? Should I move to New York? Well, the thing is, when you ask everybody in California, you should move to New York. They're all gonna say no, because they [00:10:00] like new. They like California. Like people can only give you advice based on their own experiences like this.
[00:10:07] And so it's just one of those. You have to just kind of keep some things to yourself until the brunt of it, or like the bulk of it is already done. So there's no turning back because it's so easy to get discouraged. If you let everybody in before it's done.
[00:10:23] RON: [00:10:23] Have you ever seen that guy again?
[00:10:25] SALISHA: [00:10:25] No, but he's not the only angel I've met.
[00:10:28] I feel like I've met quite a few angels in New York city, which is why I've always felt so safe here because like moving from, like, I didn't grow up with a lot of like, I'm black obviously, but like my neighborhood, my schools, like I was always like the black kid when I moved to Harlem, I'm like oh my gosh! Culture shock and I'm black.
[00:10:47]I'm like this black people everywhere. And also the whole city is just very, like, not afraid. It's a literal concrete jungle, and I have never felt safer. I feel safer in New York at 3:00 AM walking through [00:11:00] Harlem than I did in orange county in at 7:00 PM. I don't know how that is, but I have met these angels and like, oh gosh, it's so hard to explain.
[00:11:08] Like, I'll just be walking through a crosswalk and somebody will see me and give me the message that I need and keep walking like a stranger will be like.
[00:11:16] Like again,
[00:11:17] RON: [00:11:17] goosebumps again. Woo!
[00:11:20] SALISHA: [00:11:21] And you know what, I and he not hitting on me. Don't know anything about me. He's just like, don't let anybody make you feel inferior. You're in your business because you are the best of what you do, blah, blah, blah. And just kept walking. I'm like right before my audition, I'm like, Thank you!Let's go. This kind of thing happens all the time.
[00:11:38] And there will be times when I'm in my head or worried about something and then somebody will be talking on the street to somebody else and I'm not listening to their conversation. But the one thing that I need to hear is, does being almost yelled at me. Like I remember I was so stressed out about beautiful closing or like about if the show was going to close.
[00:11:58] Literally when you're looking for something, [00:12:00] there's a line of, if you're looking for something, you're going to find it. But then also I told God, If you are speaking to me, I am listening. Like, make it clear. So I know, and I remember this mother was talking to her kid and I didn't hear anything else except Enjoy Life!
[00:12:16] That's all I heard. I'm like, oh, all the things I'm worried about, you mean it's going to work out. It's going to be fine. Just, I don't know. There's just messages. There's they're everywhere.
[00:12:26] RON: [00:12:26] Yeah.
[00:12:26] CORY: [00:12:26] The best is when people give you that advice or give you that, that thing that you need, and they don't even know.
[00:12:33] Like they don't know the repercussions of saic advice. Like they just know that came out and then they'll never find out what, what actually happened. So that's like, that's the moments where you're like, really? How did that work out? How did that happen? Who, how did they notice say that exact thing when I needed it most?
[00:12:53] So that's pretty powerful for sure. So thinking about the pandemic, you've got your podcasts. [00:13:00] And we just heard you've got a new one coming. You are also now back on Broadway, getting ready, hopefully to do another show.
[00:13:09] SALISHA: [00:13:09] Oh, we're hoping like the show has been announced. The cast has not been notified yet that we're all in the group chat.
[00:13:15] Like if you heard anything they're like offers are coming soon. So we're all just kind of waiting for that contract, but
[00:13:22] CORY: [00:13:22] Is this the same show or new show?
[00:13:24] SALISHA: [00:13:24] Same show I mean, you never know, like new shows will always come about, but keeping my fingers crossed for the same way. I had so much fun. We were, we had just finished mounting the first act.
[00:13:34] We were 11 days into rehearsal. Our cast got super close and you know, it's funny when you're mounting a show, sometimes you have to take a seat back and, or a step back and like, is the show good? What is it? And it's such a relief when you're like, Yeah, this is good. Like it's good. It feels good to be a part of a show that you believe in.
[00:13:53] And I'm so happy that the Britney Spears musical has substance. Like [00:14:00] it does. It's good. And also I grew up in the Brittany era, so I love the music, but it's also a great message.
[00:14:07]CORY: [00:14:07] How are you going to. Do that get back into that world, but now you've got your podcast. So you've got other things that have come up since the pandemic.
[00:14:17] SALISHA: [00:14:17] You guys know, like it's your podcast, your rules, it's your time schedule. You get to set everything for Broadway. Oh, I go to work three hours a day. What was I doing before brunching with my friends, working out, writing my blog, just like living life and then going to the great white way, doing a little show and then going home, having a drink, like, guess what?
[00:14:44] Now, before I hit the stage eight o'clock or whatever I can interview in the daytime. Like it's so flexible, like
[00:14:54] RON: [00:14:54] right
[00:14:54] SALISHA: [00:14:54] Your own boss.
[00:14:56] RON: [00:14:56] Right, right. You can batch, you can have a day and do 10 [00:15:00] interviews.
[00:15:00] SALISHA: [00:15:00] Right.
[00:15:01] RON: [00:15:01] Right. And then you're, if you're once a week, you're two months out.
[00:15:05] SALISHA: [00:15:05] Right,
[00:15:05] RON: [00:15:05] right.
[00:15:06] SALISHA: [00:15:06] Oh my god.
[00:15:07] It's like, there's so much yeah. In this pandemic, even though it was really scary, especially at the beginning of it, it's really taught me to like, like entertain those thoughts in the back of my head. Well, I guess I could write a little bit more for my blog. I guess I could like start a podcast that I've wanted to do for awhile.
[00:15:23] I guess I could coach people, like all of these things are all like on my time schedule. Right. And it can still happen even with a job, like a, who somebody else hired me or something like blessings in disguise.
[00:15:37] RON: [00:15:37] Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's funny. Pandemic started. Corey said this and it's lives in infancy now, but he said, he goes, it's either happening to us or for us.
[00:15:48] And it's going to be us to decide. And it happened for us because we were one of the, we thrived. Like we, cause we were already starting to do stuff online. We already had our show [00:16:00] going. We do all this other stuff online and it just took off. You know, and so we were very blessed that it was the perfect time for that to happen.
[00:16:12] And it's nice to not have to go anywhere. Like, you know, I it's like my wife's like, I think you're working more now. Did and I go, yeah, but it's fun, you know, it's like, we're just following our passion and just kind of going, but I want to kind of. Yeah. And you said it earlier in the pre where you're getting jittery going up on stage and it's live, like, what is that like
[00:16:47] SALISHA: [00:16:47] having stage fright and being on Broadway?
[00:16:51] RON: [00:16:51] I mean, I've spoken. Yeah, I've spoke on stage and I always get a little nervous when I do it, but I couldn't imagine singing and [00:17:00] doing all this choreography. I've done dance competitions. And I've done choreography, so I could like, I can multitask and sing and dance. There's no way I would probably, kill over and.
[00:17:15] Well, I would
[00:17:15] SALISHA: [00:17:15] say like before getting to Broadway, the stakes have always felt so high.
[00:17:20] It's like if you mess up, you're in a lot of trouble. And funny enough getting to, in my opinion, like, like the highest form of theater. The stakes are technically high, cause there's way more money on the line, but it doesn't feel as high. If you mess up on Broadway, at least at beautiful. We didn't get fined. We didn't get fired. They would laugh at us. They're like, we don't even need to give you the note because you already know you are. That was embarrassing. Wasn't it like, it's not going to happen again, is it like you already know, but like your coworkers are laughing at you and it kind of brings like a sense of ease to it all, like to where it's like, we remember, oh yeah, we're [00:18:00] in this because it's fun.
[00:18:02] And the more fun we have the better it is, but it is like hard sometimes when you are nervous or when there is somebody in the audience who, you know, is watching you, or if the creative team is in the back and you can see them writing notes you're like, I messed up. I saw them writing that down, but I will say during this pandemic, it's kind of been, this is weird to say, I've never said this pandemic has felt like really great training for Broadway because having the ease of performing at home, if I mess up, I don't try to pretend like I didn't mess up.
[00:18:35] I'm just like, yo what are the words? And then I can see the people in my little zoom screen, like laughing with me and it's like, we're all in it together. And to have that sense of ease and to put it back in alive format is that's gold. Like if you see stars performing, they don't try to pretend that things aren't going wrong.
[00:18:54] If things are like, they'll let the audience in on the experience and it can be a real, really [00:19:00] magical exchange. So I'm excited to like, bring that back to the stage.
[00:19:06]CORY: [00:19:06] So fun. So you do coaching, tell us about the coaching. Like what kind of, are you coaching Ron to be better at singing and dancing or like
[00:19:13] RON: [00:19:13] you would have her work cut out for her.
[00:19:15] Yeah. I don't
[00:19:16] CORY: [00:19:16] know if that would win or not, but what's the coaching, who's your best people that are reaching out to you and what help would they getting?
[00:19:22] SALISHA: [00:19:22] Well, I just like started it during this pandemic and so. It's I do masterclasses and I also do one-on-one coaching and it's been like so far high school students working on material, working on audition.
[00:19:36] Like I love helping people with their auditions audition technique. Or if they're working on a song specifically, I can do that. One-on-one or if I'm with a group, I can teach them a combination or work on like their audition cuts. So those are the masterclasses and I love teaching combinations, like from beautiful or even from the Brittany musical, like [00:20:00] off the record.
[00:20:00] And so yeah, when students come to me, it's fun to listen to. What they're working on and meet them where they're at. And there's like a lot of imposter syndrome in there for me, like who am I to teach? Like I still have coaching myself. I still go to my voice lessons. I still need people to help me. But at the end of the day, like we all have something to offer.
[00:20:21] To other people, especially if we are doing what they want to eventually do, even if you're not a good teacher, you still have insight, like, because you're doing it. So there's just like believing in myself and believing in yourself. And it's been fun. I'm like my biggest fear. What if I get so many students?
[00:20:42] That's my biggest fear is like getting students. And then going back to the industry, like you can't just drop your students.
[00:20:49] Right. Right, Exactly.
[00:20:51] RON: [00:20:51] You've committed and yeah, exactly. So, so let's talk about that imposter syndrome, because I remember when we were starting our show, you know, we're like, [00:21:00] who's going to want to listen to our show and I went to sleep and I was like, it's just going to be a cool show.
[00:21:04] So who wouldn't want to listen to our show? But, so, so I got over that and then we started coaching people how to do it. And then I had to get over that. And then I was on a show. Or I was on another podcast. This gentleman had like Oprah Winfrey on his show and Terell Owens and it went Terrell Owens. And then me and then some guy that works with Tom Brady.
[00:21:28] And I'm like, what the heck am I doing on this show? Right. Like the craziest feeling, because it's, it doesn't matter how far you go or what you do or what you keep doing. You're always going to hit. Feeling of this imposter syndrome. Right. And you have to just push through it and you're going to grow and you're going to keep going and guess what?
[00:21:55] You're going to find it again, when you level up into [00:22:00] something else,
[00:22:00] SALISHA: [00:22:00] Right, right.
[00:22:01] RON: [00:22:01] It's it's always, gonna be there because it's just in your brain. It's I like to say it's just the enemy.
[00:22:07] SALISHA: [00:22:07] Like okay. Obvious like imposter syndrome, but then also like you're in the, like you're in that realm. It's kind of cool. And if you haven't, if you feel like it's not happened for you yet, like you're next, like that's how I feel when I'm in the room with like, oh my goodness.
[00:22:22] People I'm like, well, I'm in the room.
[00:22:24] RON: [00:22:24] Right.
[00:22:25] SALISHA: [00:22:25] I'm next? And they're like, it's only a matter of time. Let's go. That's awesome though. Like seriously, what a great story.
[00:22:31] RON: [00:22:31] It's crazy because there's so many of those moments that you can look back and it's easy to look back and yeah. Oh, yeah, I made through that.
[00:22:38] I made through that. I made it, but when you're going through that, give the audience just one piece of advice to help them through that imposter syndrome.
[00:22:48] SALISHA: [00:22:48] Oh gosh. You know, after interviewing quite a few stars from Broadway on my black hair, in the big leagues podcast, one of the questions I'd always ask them is like, where do you get your confidence?
[00:22:58] Where do you get your confidence? Was it, [00:23:00] were you born with this confidence? And almost all of them, like do a spit take like laughing and they're like, I'm just trying to figure it out. I am faking it. Like this is like the general consensus of a lot of really awesome performers. So when you have that imposter syndrome, a lot of people have that imposter syndrome.
[00:23:18] I'm sure we've had presidents and leaders in our nation who have had that imposter syndrome, but they're there, they're still doing it and they're faking it all out. And so part of it is faking it until you make.
[00:23:31] RON: [00:23:31] Yeah.
[00:23:31] SALISHA: [00:23:31] And just believe, like, if you can sell yourself on it, then you can also sell them. So just believe yourself.
[00:23:37] CORY: [00:23:37] Yeah. And so many of us, as we coach people, as we talk to people, as we do a podcast, it's just, as you talked about earlier, you just gotta go. You just gotta try. And if you fail, guess what? It doesn't matter. You failed and they get back up and they do it again. Right. You eventually have, you can stop faking it because you will have made it because you kept trying.
[00:23:57] And then it, I mean the first time Ron and [00:24:00] I recorded a show, it was very uncomfortable and it took us like, oh my gosh, it took us like 30 minutes to record a 30 second intro first.
[00:24:07] SALISHA: [00:24:07] I love it.
[00:24:09] CORY: [00:24:09] And now we're like, now we record a sales video of 10 minutes long off the cuff because it just does not matter. Right. You just go start trying and then eventually become comfortable with it.
[00:24:20] So. Let's Shift gears a little bit. Our show hindsight hacking our goal is to give our listeners clear foresight by you, our guests hindsight. So with that said, let's talk about this pandemic. Let's talk about some of those change transitions you've made in your life. And with the power of hindsight, if you could go back, if you could.
[00:24:43] Give yourself advice from a year ago, five years ago, what advice would you give to help people not have to go through those bumps that you went through?
[00:24:53] SALISHA: [00:24:53] You know what I feel like, and I have, chills just thinking about it. And I know that this is like the biggest freaking cliche [00:25:00] that maybe I've ever heard, but the more you can show up.
[00:25:07] As yourself. I have tried to hide who I am, my hair dimmed down my personality. Pretend I'm not as smart as I am. Try to dress regular when really I want to wear a ball gown. Like I have tried to do all these things. And whenever I've done those things, it never gets me as far as it does. When I show up how I want to show up how me being, who I am like me, I was miss California.
[00:25:35] I've always been the girl who loves to overdress and to like be dramatic like this Afro on my head. I have hidden it for so long, but when I wear it, I feel. Freedom. I feel limitless. And when I show up and I'm not trying to be so perfect with my ums and my, oh, what do they think about me? But just show up with my personality.
[00:25:57] When somebody gives me a microphone, [00:26:00] it is always well received. Always, but I will say for the little disclaimer, if it ever was not received, I never regret it because I was me. So that can be scary thing. Especially if you live in a world that's telling you to conform and where I grew up, like in California, in my opinion, it is really, you're cool when you fit in.
[00:26:21] And then when I moved to New York, you're cool. If you stand out, that's what, like the ship that I took, which is why I. New York so much, even though I also have, I love California, but yeah, just being you and doing it unapologetically, it will reward you even if not in the present. Like if you're like in the seventh grade and kids are mean, just let it let time do its thing and you'll win.
[00:26:47] RON: [00:26:47] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No, that is so true. My daughter Feylyn she is exactly like that. She'll come down. She is four she'll pose on the stairs. She's like, look at my gown. [00:27:00] She dresses up. She always has to have a dress on, always has her hair done. And she has all the, like she's a little princess. She comes up to me and goes, daddy, how come you don't treat me like the princess of Kiowa?
[00:27:18] Cause that's where we live. And I was like, I do. But if you're the princess, when does that make me? I'm the King of Kiowa.
[00:27:27] SALISHA: [00:27:27] You're the King of Kiowa.
[00:27:29] RON: [00:27:29] But no, it
[00:27:30] is so true when you show up and you're your authentic self.
[00:27:36] SALISHA: [00:27:36] Yeah,
[00:27:36] RON: [00:27:36] you will attract the people that are supposed to be in your world.
[00:27:40] SALISHA: [00:27:40] Yes,
[00:27:41] RON: [00:27:41] right?
[00:27:41] SALISHA: [00:27:41] Yes.
[00:27:42] RON: [00:27:42] And the people that aren't supposed to be in your world will naturally find their way out,
[00:27:47] SALISHA: [00:27:47] Yup, yes! You will attract energetically what you were putting out into the world. And if you are not living authentically.
[00:27:55] The people around you, the circumstances that you find yourself in might be a little uncomfortable because [00:28:00] it's not really you, that you were even like putting out, but when you're yourself, your friends will be like, awesome. Like my current boyfriend, he's amazing. And he's high beehive. He's high energy.
[00:28:12] He's so joyful. He's kind, I'm like, oh, And I learned a big lesson right before I met him. I'm like, that's all I had to do to freaking meet my match is put that energy.
[00:28:24]RON: [00:28:24] That's crazy.
[00:28:25] SALISHA: [00:28:25] Yeah.
[00:28:26] CORY: [00:28:26] I love that. You mentioned how you might say that's cliche, but Ron and I have asked a variation of that question for, I don't know, 200 plus episodes.
[00:28:36] No one has ever had an answer like that.
[00:28:40] RON: [00:28:40] Nope.
[00:28:40] SALISHA: [00:28:40] So that is not a cliche answer, by the way. Like that is like a powerful
[00:28:46] RON: [00:28:46] A super power
[00:28:47] CORY: [00:28:47] freaking show up as you, as yourself, like powerful statement that every kid, every, you know, random person that listens to our show needs to hear. So love it,
[00:28:59][00:29:00] SALISHA: [00:28:59] Somebody told me right before I think this last week is like, we are here to help the planet evolve. And we can only do that by offering who we are. So to be the fullest form or expression of who you are, speak up when you need to speak up so that you can make change, or like, I don't know. She said it's so well, but it just kind of dawned on me, like, yeah, we're trying to be quiet.
[00:29:30] Like polite for not helping anybody
[00:29:32] RON: [00:29:32] well. And if you really think about it, does it true, and this is don't take this the wrong way. Does it truly matter? What people think about, you know, it doesn't run my business. I could care less. It look, I'm a reformed people pleaser. So I'm going to say that I've tried to be reformed because I spent a long time worrying about what people thought and what [00:30:00] people cared about, who I was.
[00:30:03] And then I became who I wasn't.
[00:30:06] SALISHA: [00:30:06] Yeah.
[00:30:08] RON: [00:30:08] Right. And then my whole life was not where the direction I was wanting it to go. And I was like, got to change And I flipped about 15 years ago and I was like, I'm just going to be me
[00:30:20] SALISHA: [00:30:20] What a thought!
[00:30:21] RON: [00:30:21] . yeah. If that's not good enough, then that's okay. I'll still be here.
[00:30:28] I'll still be here. Right?
[00:30:30] CORY: [00:30:30] The right people will be able to change when we are all our authentic selves. Right. Like the right people will hear it. The right people will get the message. I love it. That's so good.
[00:30:42] SALISHA: [00:30:42] I love it.
[00:30:43]RON: [00:30:43] All right. Well, I know we are probably getting close to the end of our time, but we want to thank you so much for coming on.
[00:30:51] And how can people get in touch with you? Get into your world. How can they find you?
[00:30:59] SALISHA: [00:30:59] Absolutely. [00:31:00] Okay. Well, I've got a blog on Salishathomas.com and I like, it's one of those blogs where I just write when something goes down in my life. So it's really just like a gossip column, but just but like, okay. So Salishathomas.com.
[00:31:16] There's like a thing that you can fill out on there on Instagram slip into my DMS. That's literally how I met my boyfriend at Salisha Thomas. Just follow me, right. Me and I try to read all of the messages.
[00:31:28]CORY: [00:31:28] And the blog must be doing okay. Because looking at your last post, I think you've got like 989 views as you talk about your love.
[00:31:36] So, you know, that's doing pretty well for you.
[00:31:40] It's fun.
[00:31:41] SALISHA: [00:31:41] Yeah. Like, yeah. Thank you.
[00:31:45] CORY: [00:31:45] Perfect. All right. Salisha, it's been a blast. Your energy is infectious. We could only hope to match or get close to matching that definitely love having you every time we're anywhere and you're on the screen, like everyone is drawn to, [00:32:00] to your presence and we love it.
[00:32:01] And so again,
[00:32:02] SALISHA: [00:32:02] You guys are awesome.
[00:32:03]CORY: [00:32:03] On our show, you're amazing. And we will talk soon. Thank you guys. Thanks for having me.
[00:32:08] RON: [00:32:08] Thanks for coming
[00:32:09] all right,
[00:32:09] CORY: [00:32:09] Ron. Another episode concluded with, I know a few wins, a few takeaways, a few amazing things because Salisha is absolutely incredible. So at first, what do you got for us?
[00:32:24] RON: [00:32:24] Dude that was a Disney princess.
[00:32:25]CORY: [00:32:25] Our first Disney princess.
[00:32:26] RON: [00:32:26] I can't wait to tell my daughter a Disney princess. Like I thought Santa was big, but it's a Disney princess, like, come on. Right. But, okay. So this one's important and I think someone needs to hear this. Okay. You have to be open to hearing what God is saying to you. You have to be open and you have to be listening and willing to act, because if there's something that he's putting in your brain that he wants in the world and you don't take action on it, someone else will because [00:33:00] he wants it in the world.
[00:33:01] So think about this. How many times have you had a thought? Or an idea, and then it's out there all of a sudden, and you're like, wait, like I thought of that, like, what happened? Well, you didn't take the steps to make that happen. So you never know when it's going to happen is sometimes you don't know if that was truly or not, and you have to ask, right.
[00:33:27] But make yourself available to listen. And just be prepared. Okay. And then the second one, and I thought this was huge was, gosh, no, there's two. That was huge. I'm giving you a three, it's our show, I can do whatever.
[00:33:41]Don't be afraid to fail, try things. Don't be afraid. Right? What's the worst thing that can happen. It didn't work. Try something else. Right. But the last one, and this is the most important one, enjoy life and live in the moment because you never know how long.
[00:33:58] CORY: [00:33:58] For sure. And for me, [00:34:00] I mean the F having fun, enjoying, like, that's, that goes without saying, right.
[00:34:03] Like we wouldn't be doing this if we didn't but I that's my absolute favorite answer that we've had on the hindsight question,
[00:34:10] RON: [00:34:10] I loved it
[00:34:10] CORY: [00:34:10] The more. You can show up as yourself, like, just start and stop right there. The more you can show up as yourself. And then as you try things, as you have fun, as you do put that energy out in the world, the more you show up as yourself, the more that the right things are attracted to you and the right things are repelled,
[00:34:30] RON: [00:34:30] Right.
[00:34:30] CORY: [00:34:30] Right. The right things are repelled when we show up as our authentic selves. So absolutely incredible love it, but I knew Salisa was going to be great. The moment we saw her on the calendar. So anyway, thank you everyone for watching and thank you everyone for listening, and we will see you on the next episode.
[00:34:48] RON: [00:34:48] Bye guys.